Uhm, okay... Ideas?
Setup: Player/Computer connected by ethernet. Connected to player to remove and reup some songs. Everything worked, but connection between player and comp was lost. After that, player couldn't boot. Turns out that I was getting ext2 errors all over the place, and had an extremely hard time dropping to a shell. Once I did, I fsck'd the drive, and all was better. Or so I thought.

When the player starts, I get a message:
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta11 2002/02/08.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).

So, I decided I'd delete all my music and re-upload EVERYTHING. (Long proces, but I'm not going anywhere the rest of the night.) So, I delete everything in emplode, and sync up.
Emplode starts working, but then gives warnings:
"Rumble" could not be syncronized. Read on socket failed. (0x8004003d)
"The Extreme" could not be syncronized. An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine. (0x80072745)

So, I started taking my wnetwork apart again. An hour later, when I couldn't find anything, I left my COM connection up while syncing, and found the problem:
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x3c00
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TMusic Box Dancer
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ AFrank Mills
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ GNew Age
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N9
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x3c00
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Player exited normally: 1
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin#

It seems that everytime I sync now, the player 'exits normally' to a prompt!
So, essentially, I'm screwed - I figure I need to really make everything clean, but am not sure how to do that on the player side.

Suggestions, comments?

Thanks!
Mike,

serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x3c00
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TMusic Box Dancer
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ AFrank Mills
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ GNew Age
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N9
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x3c00

Something wrong with the song file "Music Box Dancer" perhaps?

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Something wrong with the song file "Music Box Dancer" perhaps?

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Dunno.. Doubt it, though, because it will loop, displaying those 6 lines over and over (each time Empeg said it deleted a file) and then it will bomb out. THe first feww syncs I did, it actually seemed to be deleting files, but now, it bombs out immediately.
I already did a 'clean' upgrade (reinstalled 2.00b11, no hijack anymore) when I was having the e2fs errors hoping that would fix it..

Thanks for your quick reply. :> I'm sittin' here, trying some stuff..
Mike.

Interesting, that may actually have been it.. I jumped forward a track, so it showed:
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N3
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x4c80
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TBlue Monday
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ AOrgy
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ GRock
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4c80 0:00:00

And then reloaded emplode, deleted everything, and sync'd. No errors this time. So, now I think I'm good for go..

I find it strange that something could have done that, tho.. I mean, if I didn't have the developer image loaded, I wouldn't have know WHAT to do.. ESPICALLY with the e2fs errors - the system wasn't forcing a fsck, and it was stuck in a loop, with errors along the lines of 'block nnnnnnn past logical end of unit" errors, would caused the player to terminate and reload, starting the whole process over. If I DIDN'T have a developer image, I would have been SOL in calling support..

Thanks..
Mike.

There's definitely something wrong with the player databases, these errors shouldn't be happening.

Didn't you have disk drive trouble earlier? If so, and if you've gotten your disk drive problems solved now (for sure), and you've already deleted all the tunes from the player, it might not hurt to run the builder image (on each drive separately, followed by a software install on each drive separately) just to make sure the partitions are clean and tested.

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Didn't you have disk drive trouble earlier? If so, and if you've gotten your disk drive problems solved now (for sure), and you've already deleted all the tunes from the player, it might not hurt to run the builder image (on each drive separately, followed by a software install on each drive separately) just to make sure the partitions are clean and tested.

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I will do that, if I have issues after this, or next time I decide to delete everything. (I started syncin everything, and it seems to be running fine - faster than I thought it would.)

I did notice something, and I was going to post about it, thinking I found another bug in HiJack, but, I forgot - I'm not RUNNING HiJack. Anyways, my "Synchronising" logo has stopped - it's "frozen", but the sync is still working. (I only bring this up because burn-in came to mind..)

Thanks for yer help, I'll run the builder image next time I delete everything, to make sure my drive's 100% clean.

Gratzi!
Mike.

Okok, I WAS gonna let this resat, but while syncin', I decided to check my serial connection..
Vcb: 0x4086d000
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 170:@@ S0
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 170:@@ S0
Adding Swap: 16596k swap-space (priority -7)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda4 is mounted.
(You ain't seen me roight - 00000007)

The last line has appeard long after the sync started.. (25% done with 1300 files.)
What the heck is that?? You ain't seen me roight? Did the programmers put little easter eggs in the software? Or is it really complaining? :> I dont have a song named that, so..

Heh..
Mike.

Happened again, while sync'ing. Get these errors from ext2fs:
EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,4)): ext2_free_blocks: bit already cleared for bl
ock 1007977

..scrolling all over the page, some with the same block, some with different blocks.
Off to get the drive builder..

Mike.

Anyways, my "Synchronising" logo has stopped - it's "frozen", but the sync is still working.

This is a known bug in 2.0 beta 11.

I do not know if the other error messages you noticed during the synch were normal or not.

Yeah, I'm screwed.

After using the drive utility to remake the filesystem (and run a cool burn-in utility..)
I reloaded the 2.00b11 image on, and went to sync. There were no errors, but about 75% of the way thru sync'in (of a total 1230 files, about 6Gb) the empeg rebooted itself. Of course, I did NOT have a windo opem so I missed any error messages, but now, it's stuck rebooting itself:
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or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

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Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
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Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg50 (mac@aphex.internal.empeg.com) (gcc versi
on 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #7 Fri Feb 8 18:45:38 GMT 2002
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 10101598)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004200).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, 9590MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:22:06:3
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Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...ò&#9560;òj&#9564;&#9554;&#9571;&#9572;òæü&#9556;&#9564;&#9564;&#9572;üíòß&#9572;&#9556;üÖÑ&#9618;ò&#9552;&#963;&#9552;&#9572;ò&#9569;Ñü&#9556;òàæ&#9564;&#9571;&#9618;&#963;&#9571;)5 chang
e_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0
.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Com&#8801;Starting
player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta11 2002/02/08.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Feb 7 2002
Vcb: 0x4086d000
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After the last line, it waits about.. 40 seconds, and repeats the process. I could do the drive imager again, if anyone thinks that'll help..
I'm curious how a broken network connection could do this much damage...!

Mike.

Off-Topic. Sorry;
Is anyone else having problems reading this thread? I have to scroll an entire page to the right to read all of a post. Like word-wrapping is somehow turned off for just this thread.
No other threads or groups have ever done this to me

I reloaded the 2.00b11 image on, and went to sync. There were no errors, but about 75% of the way thru sync'in (of a total 1230 files, about 6Gb) the empeg rebooted itself.

When you put 2.00b11 on it, did you also put Hijack on it to fix the Jiffies bug before doing the synch? Maybe that's all it was.

It's because of those incredibly long "words" that is breaking the wordwrapping.

"Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...ò&#9560;òj&#9564..."

- Trevor

The message is from the Linux kernel to alert you to the fact that something seriously bizarre has happened. That's not the original message however, somebody at Empeg must have changed it

You should only in theory get the error message if the kernel detects an incorrect triggering of an exception handler (data abort specifically). The Linux ARM people think that it is caused by a silicon level bug in the StrongARM processor so it is VERY odd that only you have had this error! Something very wacky is going on with your player...

- Trevor

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It's because of those incredibly long "words" that is breaking the wordwrapping.
"Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...ò&#9560;òj&#9564..."

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Erm, sorry about that.. The BBS translated them into.. uh.. some kinda character set when I pasted them from my log..

Mike.

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Something very wacky is going on with your player...

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Heh, you're telling me.

Okay, in short, this morning I reloaded the drve tool to re-make the hard drive. It went thru it's thing, then I re-uploaded 2.00b11. Went and did a sync. .. 6 hours later, I come back, and to my plesant suprise, find that it did not reboot, or otherwise error. So, I THINK everything is good..

A few things worry me still, tho: I got that "You ain't see me roight" or wierd arse error again while the syncing was going on, and althought I'm not 100% sure, I think, while I was having it sit there playing music, it rebooted on me. When I was having the problems, I had sporadit reboots. (i.e. sitting at a prompt, it'd just reboot. While fsck was in stage 1, it'd reboot. The FIRST time I ran the drive maker tool, it would reboot while testing the drive.) Now, however, it looks fine - hasn't rebooted while I've been looking at it.

I'm crossing my fingers for the next coupla weeks.. Just in case.

Thanks for everyone's .. uh, help, paitence, and laughing at my expense!

Much happier, now..
Mike.

If the synchronizing logo stops moving, that's just the player "jiffies bug" (fixed in Hijack kernels). The sync usually still continues, and the logo usually starts moving again about 12 minutes later (or was that 19 minutes?).
-ml

19 :-)